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Re: New Haven trains to Penn station

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Apr 20 15:46:05 2024, in response to Re: New Haven trains to Penn station, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 20 10:52:39 2024. It has a minimal effect on total Penn traffic and a huge effect on East Bronx transportation services. The effect on East Bronx transportation is equally minimal. Here's what it looks like, within walking distance of the 4 proposed stations. line item Current 2020 New 2020 Current 2010 New 2010 Current 2000 New 2000 1 Study Area: Penn Station Access: Co-Op City Penn Station Access: Hunts Point Penn Station Access: Morris Park Penn Station Access: Parkchester-Van Nest 2 - Population 3 -- Total Population 113,542 105,699 104,810 4 -- Total Population Average Distance To Subway 0.367 0.244 0.367 0.243 0.370 0.249 5 -- Total Population Median Distance To Subway 0.340 0.239 0.345 0.239 0.345 0.239 6 -- Population %-Tile Distances To Subway 7 -- 5%-Tile 0.087 0.079 0.087 0.076 0.089 0.087 8 -- 10%-Tile 0.110 0.100 0.110 0.100 0.113 0.099 9 -- 15%-Tile 0.126 0.119 0.127 0.119 0.136 0.116 10 -- 20%-Tile 0.157 0.133 0.157 0.133 0.175 0.136 11 -- 25%-Tile 0.187 0.152 0.187 0.139 0.197 0.165 12 -- 30%-Tile 0.216 0.175 0.212 0.157 0.223 0.188 13 -- 35%-Tile 0.246 0.189 0.246 0.185 0.228 0.208 14 -- 40%-Tile 0.280 0.202 0.284 0.198 0.289 0.224 15 -- 45%-Tile 0.313 0.218 0.313 0.214 0.331 0.225 16 -- 50%-Tile 0.340 0.239 0.345 0.239 0.345 0.239 17 -- 55%-Tile 0.376 0.260 0.376 0.262 0.392 0.260 18 -- 60%-Tile 0.398 0.280 0.404 0.279 0.392 0.284 19 -- 65%-Tile 0.429 0.292 0.429 0.295 0.424 0.284 20 -- 70%-Tile 0.462 0.305 0.465 0.308 0.440 0.301 21 -- 75%-Tile 0.478 0.331 0.473 0.331 0.506 0.327 22 -- 80%-Tile 0.531 0.340 0.531 0.341 0.563 0.345 23 -- 85%-Tile 0.580 0.371 0.570 0.364 0.573 0.367 24 -- 90%-Tile 0.683 0.401 0.670 0.395 0.670 0.385 25 -- 95%-Tile 0.847 0.434 0.829 0.437 0.841 0.439 26 -- 100%-Tile 0.957 0.497 0.993 0.497 0.895 0.499 27 -- Total Within Walk To Subway Distance 87,451 113,542 80,744 105,699 78,166 104,810 28 --- Difference 26,644 26,644 26,644 29 -- % of Total Population Within Walk To Subway Distance 77.02% 100.00% 76.39% 100.00% 74.58% 100.00% 30 -- Total Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 26,091 0 24,955 0 26,644 0 31 --- Difference -26,644 -26,644 -26,644 32 -- % of Total Population Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 22.98% 0.00% 23.61% 0.00% 25.42% 0.00% 33 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Average Distance 0.687 nan 0.678 nan 0.668 nan 34 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Median Distance 0.664 nan 0.652 nan 0.654 nan Of the 114K people who live within 1/2 mile walking distance of one of the 4 proposed stations, 77% already live within walking distance of an existing subway station. This leaves only 27K people who will gain walk to rail access. It's also important to discover how much the walk to rail distance will be reduced for the 27K. That's shown in the percentile figures for non-walkers. There isn't much gain because the longest distance is less than a mile. Here's a station-by-station breakdown of the "huge effect". line item Current 2020 New 2020 Current 2010 New 2010 Current 2000 New 2000 1 Study Area: Penn Station Access: Co-Op City 2 - Population 3 -- Total Population 12,310 11,700 11,410 4 -- Total Population Average Distance To Subway 0.749 0.282 0.745 0.290 0.727 0.271 5 -- Total Population Median Distance To Subway 0.789 0.292 0.828 0.322 0.841 0.284 6 -- Total Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 11,107 0 10,670 0 10,298 0 7 --- Difference -10,298 -10,298 -10,298 8 -- % of Total Population Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 90.23% 0.00% 91.20% 0.00% 90.25% 0.00% 9 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Average Distance 0.812 nan 0.800 nan 0.787 nan 10 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Median Distance 0.847 nan 0.828 nan 0.841 nan 11 Study Area: Penn Station Access: Hunts Point 13 - Population 14 -- Total Population 36,341 35,448 33,921 15 -- Total Population Average Distance To Subway 0.189 0.169 0.192 0.170 0.193 0.172 16 -- Total Population Median Distance To Subway 0.155 0.133 0.155 0.133 0.157 0.136 17 -- Total Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 1,081 0 1,064 0 1,056 0 18 --- Difference -1,056 -1,056 -1,056 19 -- % of Total Population Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 2.97% 0.00% 3.00% 0.00% 3.11% 0.00% 20 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Average Distance 0.535 nan 0.533 nan 0.534 nan 21 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Median Distance 0.549 nan 0.508 nan 0.518 nan 22 Study Area: Penn Station Access: Morris Park 24 - Population 25 -- Total Population 9,073 8,275 10,079 26 -- Total Population Average Distance To Subway 0.544 0.340 0.536 0.340 0.538 0.330 27 -- Total Population Median Distance To Subway 0.601 0.343 0.573 0.332 0.573 0.316 28 -- Total Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 6,262 0 5,705 0 7,078 0 29 --- Difference -7,078 -7,078 -7,078 30 -- % of Total Population Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 69.02% 0.00% 68.94% 0.00% 70.23% 0.00% 31 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Average Distance 0.637 nan 0.625 nan 0.619 nan 32 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Median Distance 0.636 nan 0.614 nan 0.573 nan 33 Study Area: Penn Station Access: Parkchester-Van Nest 35 - Population 36 -- Total Population 55,818 50,276 49,400 37 -- Total Population Average Distance To Subway 0.370 0.268 0.374 0.266 0.375 0.279 38 -- Total Population Median Distance To Subway 0.371 0.278 0.376 0.278 0.390 0.258 39 -- Total Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 7,641 0 7,516 0 8,212 0 40 --- Difference -8,212 -8,212 -8,212 41 -- % of Total Population Beyond Walk To Subway Distance 13.69% 0.00% 14.95% 0.00% 16.62% 0.00% 42 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Average Distance 0.568 nan 0.564 nan 0.577 nan 43 -- Beyond Walking Distance to Subway Population: Median Distance 0.559 nan 0.540 nan 0.563 nan

Responses

• Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - AlM - Sat Apr 20 16:20:06 2024
  • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - irtredbirdr33 - Sat Apr 20 16:32:46 2024
    • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - jailhousedoc - Sun Apr 21 13:36:51 2024
      • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - Fisk Ave Jim - Sun Apr 21 13:43:44 2024
        • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - Jackson Park B Train - Sun Apr 21 16:36:17 2024
          • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - AlM - Sun Apr 21 16:52:11 2024
            • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - Stephen Bauman - Sun Apr 21 17:44:44 2024
              • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - AlM - Sun Apr 21 17:59:52 2024
          • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - 3-9 - Mon Apr 22 09:36:21 2024
            • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - Jackson Park B Train - Mon Apr 22 12:56:33 2024
  • Re: New Haven trains to Penn station - Stephen Bauman - Mon Apr 22 22:29:06 2024

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