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CBTC failure -- Is this the future?

Posted by gbs on Wed May 18 22:30:21 2022



This evening, around 7:35, there was a "signal malfunction at 111 St", and all #7 service was suspended in both directions from Junction Blvd to Main St. Is this the future with CBTC? No service at all when there's a malfunction?

With ordinary signals, even a stuck signal with a raised trip-arm can be circumvented and keyed by under proper supervision. Is there no override with CBTC? No way to operate on manual? If that is the case, who sold that idea to the TA as a viable system with no way to operate when there's some outage?

Our local entered Junction Blvd normally, and then sat there "held by supervision". Then an express entered normally and many of us changed from the local to the express. Both trains then sat there. Eventually our conductor advised those going to Citifield to exit the subway and walk to 108 to take the Q48. Then the train operator announced that Junction Blvd would be the last stop on the express, so we all got off and got back on the local, which continued to sit there.

Eventually the express left with passengers Manhattan-bound (next stop 74 St). Meanwhile the stupid automatic announcement system continued to say that there was a Main St bound express train 4 minutes away. Some time later our local closed down and crept to 103 St and then to 111 St. After waiting there several minutes, the conductor announced that there was no service going into Main St and told us to take the Q48 downstairs.

As of 10:00 the MTA website is saying that there are still extensive delays because of the signal malfunction at 111 St.

There's got to be a way to provide some kind of service even when there's some kind of outage. Completely suspending service cannot be an option.

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