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Re: Singapore MTR - Weep New Yorkers!

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Oct 23 08:09:35 2021, in response to Re: Singapore MTR - Weep New Yorkers!, posted by rashidas on Fri Oct 22 12:01:03 2021.

It can be argued, however, that the NYC subway was built for the most part within 50 years, 1904-1954. After 1954, the only projects involving substantial new trackage were:

--Grant Ave (honorable mention for the Rockaways if you want)
--Chrystie Street
--Archer Ave
--63rd St
--Hudson Yards
--2nd Ave

NYC is to be admired for its number of underwater tubes, given that the southern portion of the East River is much wider than most other famous big-city rivers worldwide. That to me is among the most impressive aspects of the system, relative to others around the world. NYC also stands out for its express trackage. Since it got done early on, there's no real sense of urgency nowadays to make it bigger.

One issue worth pointing out is that NYC sits on a state boundary. Expanding westward from Manhattan involves having increased cooperation that probably would not be so necessary if the western shore of the Hudson was also part of the city.

I do think they went the wrong way when they expanded stations and made long trains. With today's technology it would be much better to have half-trains at double frequencies (and less station infrastructure to maintain) IMO, but that decision was made long ago and things like CBTC or ATO probably weren't envisioned.

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