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Re: MTA could approve massive service cuts?

Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:26:57 2020, in response to Re: MTA could approve massive service cuts?, posted by Q23 on Wed Oct 28 09:52:49 2020.

There was a formula for determining what portion of the between shift time is paid but I don’t recall what it is although I seem to recall that only up to 2 hours of swing time was paid. Dept of Buses still uses split shifts (commonly referred to as “swings”) although Buses tends to label all off vehicle time as a “swing.” There are rules governing what the maximum total spread between the first start time and the final clearing time can be and as I recall Subways and Buses had and still have different sets of rules. On Subways, a run working 8:30 is paid at 8:45 because all time over 8 hours id paid time and a half. On buses a job working 8:30 is paid only 8:30 because the off vehicle (lunch or swing) time is only paid at straight time. In any case, Buses still has runs with a significant amount of swing time so there is some sort of basis to work with. As a bit of historical info, Prior to the Chrystie merges of 1967, IRT and IND Divisions had swing runs intermixes with the straight runs. How far back in went, I don’t know but the BMT was the first division to do away with swing runs in favor of all straight runs with a few exceptions like the remaining 2nd position C/Rs (second carmen) who still had swing runs due to only being needed during rush hours when longer trains required an additional C/R (or even more in the case of the gate cars on the el). Additionally while the IRT and IND used switchmen to relay trains at terminals and out in and lay up trains from.to yards, the BMT runs used the road crews to relay trains at locations where needed and to prepare trains for service and make put ins and layups listed on work programs as “transfer cars" or simply "T/C.” As originally practiced, runs with T/C in the program generally did not make the full complements of normal trips for the line but have some sort of T/C substituted for one of the trips. The way it usually worked was the if the T/C were at the end of the run, the crew would simply lay up their train and barring any additional drilling leave the property without having to sign out. This seemed very attractive to the crews so when it came time to merge the BMT and IND, union members voted overwhelmingly to go with the BMT system and completely eliminate swing runs. Over the years due to confusion as to whether or not crews could be required to make road trips on T/C time if needed, the term T/C was changed to “work as assigned” or WAA and with “productivity” being given increased priority, total spread time on runs was substantially increased so that instead of the WAA time being a hidden break for crews, many runs now require crews to do the full complement of trips the line calls for as well as a put in or lay up and in rare cases both.

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