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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jul 30 11:37:04 2020, in response to Re: LIRR+Park Avenue, posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 30 06:34:14 2020. "Penn South can't be extended east of 6th Avenue due to the 6th Avenue subway express tracks. It is too shallow to go under it."Is this your opinion or is it from actual released engineering plans of Penn South? "You do realize that NJT and LIRR have peaks running in opposite direction. Reverse peak service cannot be balanced with peak." "What were you planning to do with LIRR's 1,000 MU cars" It's really hard to have a discussion with people who refuse to read. At what point did I ever say the entirety of peak service would be thru-run? Nowhere. In fact, I said that the shortest schedules that have reverse peak potential, like Great Neck, Freeport, and Hempstead, are all that I would thru-run, and I asked what were similar shortest schedules on the NJT side (Jersey Av is one). If thru-running increases capacity (which would be the whole point), then those MUs get to be used on whatever new schedules that terminate at NYP. " not a single locomotive on NJT can run east of Harold ? They are not going to stop there at cut over for 2 minutes. " Is it really that hard to figure out that this would clearly require a newly designed dual mode MU or loco? Cutovers could be performed at Penn given the dwell times are already long enough. "I don't know where you get 48 trains per hour. You have TWO tracks per direction under the East River and ONE under the Hudson River. Commuter rail is not a subway nor is NYPS is a subway station. It takes 5 - 10 minutes to clear a train and platform." I was addressing ESA specifically. The current stub end terminal plan is limited to 24 tph (2.5 min headway) because of the requirement to turn trains back around. If the terminal was thru-run and you maintain that headway of 2.5 mins, you could double the tph capacity of the entire project since that's 24tph per track in the tunnel. Tied in with Penn South and Gateway, yes, that's still only 24 tph because of the single track each way under the Hudson but there's some other parts to what I was thinking. Regardless, we have lagged behind for decades in major rail infrastructure build outs and now we're stuck playing catch up. |
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