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Re: Start up date for the Limited rush hour Brooklyn F train express.

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 11 05:53:52 2019, in response to Re: Start up date for the Limited rush hour Brooklyn F train express., posted by randyo on Tue Sep 10 19:41:08 2019.

Hi Guys,

Sorry, I have not been posting for a while, I've been busy.

Just a few thoughts:

a) I agree with most of the thoughts about the F-express service consisting of two morning express runs, and two evening express runs. These express trains allow for either an increased number of G-trains or non-interference with the local trains.

When there were problems on the line, I'm sure that train dispatchers did indeed send some F-trains express - simply making plain a typical practice.

b) I doubt that these two F-express trains will become a "tradition" like the rush hours only E express trains out of 179th Street, but it would be nice.

c) I agree with Joe V - "The IND Culver line has had trains at 4 - 5 minute rush hour intervals for 2 generations. I doubt people are going to let a local F go by to wait for the express F that runs twice a day. They'll get to the station and take a train that gets them to work when they are due for work. "

d) In the past we have argued, debated, and argued some more about the M-trains, the V-trains, the trains using the 53rd Street tunnel, and the trains using the 63rd Street tunnel.

Not to beat a "Dead Wallyhorse" about it (ha, ha) - please let's not start that argument again. I know it is one of the "greatest hit's debates" that we have here.

e) I would suggest another reason for the N-train's Sea Beach express track was the recent renovation work done on the stations - track made it simpler to provide service.

On the other hand, the MTA has often sent both D and N trains over each other's tracks in many service re-routes or G.O.'s over the decades that a consistent case for the express track may not have been the easiest to make.

f) Both the Dyre Avenue line and the Sea Beach line are "kind of out of the way" making an easier case for a test track that also happens to be useful for occasional service re-routes.

Plus in the case of the Dyre Avenue line, the passengers may simply remain on the same train to get to the by-passed stops.

g) Glad to be bad, even if I can be wordy.



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