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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 6 22:12:31 2019, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 6 18:37:45 2019. I'll start with Nevins Street. Yes, Nevins St was considered for the 4th Ave subway, but that would become one of the disputed routes right before the Dual Contracts. What I am talking about was the original proposal that the IRT made in 1908. They offered to rebuild the 3rd Ave el for steel cars, if they could get the 2 northside tracks for the Manhattan Bridge. Coming off of the bridge and Flatbush Ave, the new line would use the Nevins St lower level and swing off to Lafayette Ave. The bridge bound trains would come into Nevins from Lafayette on the NB local track and switch off to the right just beyond the platform (a door pocket existed here). This was at least 3 years before the Lexington Ave subway plans were drawn. The 4th Ave subway dispute, that you mention, came later.I never read anything about the WillyB Plaza station being tied to the Fulton St el work. What killed Ashland Place was the BRT bankruptcy on the last day of 1918. It discouraged any new projects, except the Standards (2500-2899) continued to be built from 1919-1923. Also, 27 sets of C cars were built from gate cars. The new BMT added 50 trailers (4000-4049) in 1924 as an economy move. But, the BMT did not want to fund the cars or equipment for Ashland Place. After initial talks for, the BMT said it could not afford to equip it. That would have required 200 additional Standard motors at a price of $40 million. Instead, they ended the Ashland Place talks in 1926, while turning their attention to producing the Triplexes and pushing for completion of the 14th St and Nassau-Montague projects. The bottom line for Adams St and other proposals for the Fulton St el were blocked by the BMT. The KCERR had the highest ridership of any original elevated line. The BMT had received franchise rights to operate over the Brooklyn Bridge from the former BRT, which had obtained the 1896 charter fron the Kings County Elevated Ry in 1900. They did NOT wish to jeopardize that franchise! PS: I agree with everything else that you wrote, Randy!!! |
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