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Re: As Goon Attacks Elderly Woman On Train, Bystanders Shoot Video

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 24 04:57:24 2019, in response to Re: As Goon Attacks Elderly Woman On Train, Bystanders Shoot Video, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 24 04:22:26 2019.

The point is, thanks to the legal system, the safest course of action if you see a crime occurring is to:
(1) Run away
(2) Call the cops
(3) Record the interaction from a safe distance (sufficient to make a quick getaway)


The real world is messy and no advice is applicable in all circumstances. Running away isn't always possible. Calling the cops can be as dangerous as interceding for certain types of crimes. Recording from a "safe" distance is an incredibly messy calculation that can be impossible to make in the heat of the moment.

There's no course of action that always works— and any course of action you're forced to choose in the heat of the moment will be less optimal than one you'd take if you actually had the time to think about it.

Interfering and failing will get you hurt/killed

Interfering and succeeding can get you hurt or killed.

Interfering and succeeding will get you sued at best, arrested at worst

Interfering and succeeding can mean stopping a crime in progress and several others the same perpetrator had planned, thus saving dozens of potential victims— and you still dying in the process. The range of outcomes is incredibly varied.

Exception: if the crime you are witnessing appears to be that of organized crime, ignore it.

There's no way you could know that from simply witnessing the act.

Self-preservation is the #1 instinct people have.

Strictly speaking, it's more like genetic preservation, so it includes family and so forth, but basically yes.

I'm more likely to run into a burning building to save a child in danger than I would be to interfere in something like this; at least fire isn't consciously trying to harm you.

And statistically, you aren't doing that either.

And if you did, there's a good chance it would mean the firefighters who trained for this now have to rescue two people instead of one.

The average age of SubChatters is collecting Social Security, but the board is still full of internet tough guys who Totally Would Have™ saved the day and stopped the criminal.

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