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CitiTicket ridership (Flushing to Little Neck) vs Q12/Q13 weekend ridership

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Mon Feb 11 22:59:58 2019

Would be interesting to compare the two, if ridership statistics are available. Willing to bet the total weekend Q12/Q13 ridership is MUCH more than that of comparable weekend CitiTicket ridership due to cost.

Q12s are usually crush-loaded by the time they leave the first stop (Flushing) on weekends, with long lines waiting to board in front of Macy's. Q13s have heavy ridership too, but usually just a full seated load, since they run bit less frequently.

Most of the ridership gets on/off at the Flushing subway (presumably to transfer to the #7 train to Manhattan). They refuse to pay the $4.25 fare for LIRR weekend CitiTicket when the bus to subway fare is $2.75 (or even less if you're a heavy Unlimited user).

Also amazing how just about everyone pays the fare on these two bus lines. I guess the people who take the Q12/Q13 have a sense of moral pride and ethics, compared to the 50% of those who march past the driver without saying a word on many Staten Island buses (especially on the North Shore).

Think of all the extra buses the MTA must run on the Q12 and Q13 lines because they charge so much on the LIRR. If the LIRR accepted Unlimited Metrocard within city limits (via "pay before boarding" machines), think of how much money the MTA could save by cutting the frequency of the Q12/Q13 by half or more.

On the Q13 which passes directly in front of several LIRR stations (including Bayside), I've seen many passengers getting on the bus right in front of the LIRR stations and get off at Main St for the #7 train.

I guess the MTA doesn't mind running expensive local buses, even though having the LIRR accepting Unlimited Metrocard would be much more cost effective for them (enabling them to cut frequencies on the Q12/Q13). They'd save money this way, and actually be helping the passengers reach Manhattan quicker. Everyone would win. At least they could do this "weekends only".

Similar argument for Southeast Queens stations (Queens Village, etc).

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