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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Feb 5 23:37:33 2019, in response to Re: Park Avenue (Brooklyn), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Feb 5 19:17:37 2019. I've posted this before as well, David Rogoff's article, abandoned/ disused stations structures of the BMT in an old NY Div Bulletin, makes reference to these "understructure" trackway support beams, calling the curved beams quadrants - they were at Park & Myrtle, and Hudson & Myrtle.You could see them underneath as part of the structure from the street, which I did, when the el closed in Oct. 69. Excerpt from an old Henry Raudenbusch subchat post that I've pasted in below about the old main line also explains this. (I pasted the orig. post into a Word doc, and unfortunately didn't include ID, year, month and day when I saved it) HR's excerpt: "When the Myrtle Ave line was built, it crossed the original line both on Grand Ave and on Hudson Ave. To avoid crossing, connecting curves were built in the northeast and southwest quadrants at both places, with the Myrtle tracks continuing through." :... David Rogoff referred to these crossings as "quadrants" in his article. I didn't completely understand what he meant until I saw this section of the Myrtle el's underside myself." ------------------------------------------------------ Apparently, from the above post, the Myrtle tracks crossed at grade these curving tracks after they were built. But from your post Jan, you also saw the picture of the beams from the Grand St. structure going right straight across the Myrtle - So, 1) were the Grand St. tracks across the Myrtle to the Lex's. Grand St. station removed at some point, after the Myrtle with its thru tracks had been built,or, 2) did both Lex & Myrtle's thru tracks cross at grade? 3) were either, both, or neither of these thru track grade crossings at Myrt. & Lex left in place after the curving tracks to and from the Park Ave el & to and from the Lex at Grand st. were installed? Dates for any of these situations that existed or were changed would be helpful if possible. ------------------------------------------------------- re: one or two platforms at the Lex's. Grand St. station: excerpt from an article in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, dated May 13, 1885: (quotes about the platforms are at the end) The Brooklyn Daily Eagle Wednesday May 13, 1885 page one "DONE AT LAST" Brookly Elevated Road Ready for the Public / ITS RECORD FOR ELEVEN YEARS The stations now built on the line of the first section are located as follows: York and Washington streets York and Bridge streets Park Avenue and navy Street Park Avenue and Cumberland street Park Avenue and Washington Grand and Myrtle avenues Grand and Dekalb Avenues Grand and Greene Avenues Lexington and Franklin Avenues and continues listing the final four stations along Lexington Ave: Nostrand, Tompkins, Sumner, & Reid Avenues; and B'way & Gates ave. "The stations along Park avenue are between the tracks, with a common entrance for up and down trains. All others are at the sides." So this would mean that the station at Lex. and Grand St. did have two platforms when the line opened (since the Myrtle Ave el did not open for another couple of years [Adams->Grand April 1888; Grand-> Myrtle-B'way April 1889] And the drawing from Tracks of New York, above Brooklyn, also has an inbound platform drawn in as a dotted line, to show that it was abandoned. |
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