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Re: Tour of funeral train

Posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 7 18:07:51 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 7 16:56:31 2018.

Also folks here have a right to disagree with you without the namecalling...on both sides.

Technically, we also have a right to the namecalling. However, unprovoked namecalling is rude, which is why I don't do it.

Reciprocity, however, is a common theme throughout interactions— that's the mechanism by which manners are enforced, after all. So while unprovoked namecalling is rude, responding in kind to it is not.

Namecalling is a tool or the inarticulate.

Incorrect. It's more like a seasoning. If you have nothing but namecalling, it would be best to shut up, but if you've got a legit point to make, then a few insults directed at the deserving can spice it up a bit and make it less boring.

If you can't make a point with legit facts to back up your statements (and rebut) w/o resorting to childish measures, then you have no conversation.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Attaching an insult to the end of an argument does not invalidate it.

Though I admit that many of the people in this thread have nothing but insults, so perhaps this part of your post was directed at them.

Having said that, do you have any facts to back up your opinion of G.H.W, Bush being a murderer?

25-50 thousand deaths estimated. So yes.

If this was so blatantly obvious to everybody, why wasn't he impeached?

Seriously? If Thomas Jefferson was a slaver, why wasn't he impeached?

The powerful are almost never held accountable for their crimes— especially not when those crimes are committed against the powerless. That's as obvious as the crimes themselves.

Even the most staunch republicans of the day would have hung him out to dry if even the least bit of your accusations were true.

That's absolute lunacy. You might as well claim that Kim du Jour is a righteous leader because the North Koreans would have hung him out to dry if he weren't.

Reminds me of Nixon & Watergate. When the most conservitave republican of the time Barry Goldwater turned on him, right then & there Nixon knew it was over.

Nixon made the mistake of attacking the powerful— a major rival party, not the people of a foreign colony. And even then, he faced no consequences for his actions beyond losing a position of extreme power he never had any right to in the first place.

Anyway, God bless the USA & its freedom of speech.

Tell that to Snowden, Manning, Kiriakou, Albury, and all the other people who have been sent to prison - recently! - for daring to criticize the government.

However, if you would have been able to make a post like this in Iran after the death of Ayatollah Kohmeni (sp) condeming him, your head would have been on a steak on your front lawn the next day.

Am I sensing a little bit of fatwa envy?

Also, the word you're looking for is "stake."

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