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Posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 7 05:56:22 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill West on Fri Dec 7 04:12:00 2018. "society as a whole has allowed" is in the sense that society believes that what people do with their own resources is their own business, that no one else has any say over it.Society also believes that criminals can be denied the right to use their own resources as they see fit, or even denied the right to call the resources theirs. That society has allowed three generations of Bush to commit crimes without calling them criminals is a choice society has made. Others can express their opinion on what they would do but it is not theirs to argue that one's own use of one's own resources wrongs anyone. On the contrary. If I elect to use a gun I rightfully own to relocate a bullet I rightfully own to the interior of your skull, you have every right to tell me that is an illegitimate use of my own resources because it wrongs you. If I did it anyway, everyone would have the right to call me a criminal and deny me all further rights to use my resources as I see fit, or even to call them mine. And if society instead called me a hero and heaped accolades upon me, then that would be a choice society has made. People have the right to even squander their own resources. Yes, but if the Bush crime family had been arrested long ago, then the choice to squander resources on a special train for them would never have been made. "No one has offered a coherent rebuttal" uh, I've made calm counterpoints 5 posts in a row. They were certainly calm and polite, which is a rarity on SubChat these days. However, none of them directly addressed my point. In your first post, you mentioned details about UP's decision to run the train, but that's unrelated to my main point that we shouldn't have ended up in a position where such a thing was realistic— if society were just, then Bush would be so toxic that UP wouldn't dare risk the PR fiasco of heaping accolades upon him. Your second and third posts were based on a slight misunderstanding of why I originally brought up Amtrak (which was unclear, so I apologise). Your fourth post (and this current post) sought to address my point about what society allows, but didn't reach quite deep enough to address my underlying concerns about the shape of society; I mentioned both UP's provision of a funeral train and Amtrak's lack of diner cars not as standalone issues but as a broader commentary on the shape of society as a whole. In summary— the fact that a dead criminal is treated as heroic and heaped with praise says some nasty things about us as a society. The provision of a luxurious funeral train nicer than what most non-criminals will ever ride in is a small, if somewhat emblematic, part of that. |
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