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Re: The Complete Guide to Tokyo’s Trains & Subways

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Dec 7 05:28:08 2018, in response to Re: The Complete Guide to Tokyo’s Trains & Subways, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 7 04:16:30 2018.

They can't allow it for smart cards because you can get your money back off the card - it would be a loophole for getting a no-fee cash advance.

I'd rather have the ability to pay with a credit card over a cash refund. If anything, it's an incentive to either burn money at the airport or return for another trip. :-)

FWIW, the only RFID card that has seen multiple uses has been my card for NS in the Netherlands. IIRC, it's the only nationwide card in Europe and probably one of the few in the world. A close second would be my WMATA Smartrip card.

Sadly, no one has vision for anything other than giant caves around these parts, so it will be replaced by another giant cave.

The weird part is that supposedly the Asakusa Line operation was what convinced RATP and SNCF that the RER in France would actually work. So somebody bothered to follow up on the Japanese experiment, but we opted for disconnected caves with meh capacity, and almost all of the problems the Japanese wanted to solve with through-running.

I'm told New York area commuters do not have sufficient brain cells to understand the concept of turnstiling in and out, and as a result need a $30/hour fare collector for every 2 cars instead.

I suspect it's more of a "we've always done it this way, and why risk conflict with our labour" issue.

Their conductors don't balk at operating the doors of a 15 (x 65') car train from the last car,

https://youtu.be/H7LA9_OOC3U

Have fun! :-)

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