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Re: Why New Yorkers Insisted On A ''Worse'' Subway Map

Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 14 02:10:19 2018, in response to Re: Why New Yorkers Insisted On A ''Worse'' Subway Map, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 13 18:47:42 2018.

Middays were the only wrinkle at the time but eventually it was decided to extend the midday 4s to Utica since they did that on weekends anyhow. Also a few years prior to that the 5s also operated to Atlantic and it was decided to have midday and evening 5s terminate at Bowling Green and have only 4s going to Bkln. Keep in mind that there are many variations in the different services which don’t show up on the official timetables. In the AM there are a few 2 and 5 trains that operate to Utica or N/Lots to lay up there middays and originate there in the PM rush for N/B service. I don’t know if it’s still done or not, but there were also selected 4s and 5s that in the AM didn’t go to Bkln at all but turned at Bowling Green and returned N/B. A few S/B trains in the PM also did the same thing since they were not needed in Bkln but only for Bronx service. Originally, the PM Bwlg Grn turnarounds operated light S/B to avoid fumigating the trains at Bwlg Grn, but I believe, the MTA has insisted they now operate in service which probably cause no end of confusion at Bwlg Grn.

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