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Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 15 04:13:42 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 14 20:30:34 2018.

The interior looks much more open with the rebuild, yet, a design loss since it's the TA's bland style overall. There's the obvious loss of the central standee poles*; and of course the plastic "benches" instead of the original seats.

*did the original design of these cars for the 2nd ave. subway, take into account that these poles would be necessary for expected heavy east side traffic, as was on the Lex?

The grab handle design in the original photo, is that BMT style, similar to the grab handle design of the Standards, D-types.

And different maps for different eras - original photo, late 40s Hagstrom BMT oriented route map.** And the rebuild, features a 70s Vignelli map.

**at that time was it considered that a built second ave. subway might be part of the BMT Division?




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