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Re: REPOST OF FB CTA ''Spam Cans'' On the P & W

Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon May 28 09:39:26 2018, in response to Re: CORRECTION CTA ''Spam Cans'' On the P & W, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon May 28 09:24:41 2018.

This is a repost of a Facebook posting I made on Chicago-L.
The story of 18 "flat door" 6000s doesn't end here (#6001-6200). 18 CTA cars were purchased for $250.00 per car plus shipping and handling by SEPTA, the transit agency in Pennsylvania. SEPTA determined those cars, "could be made ready for their Norristown service with the least amount of difficulty. And SEPTA already had the experience of converting the two North Shore Electroliners to "LibertyLiners."

Ironically, the flatdoor 6000s being considered for purchase were all on the Ravenswood line and were being replaced by the Budd 2600s built in Philadelphia. Twelve cars were chosen, four were already pulled from service (#6151/6152, 6161/6162). The remainder were in service and asked to be set aside (#6079/6080, 6089-6090, 6109-6110, and 6139-6140) The cars would be acquired "as is" minus their ATC packages, truck plows, and trolley shoe assemblies. Six more cars would be purchased bringing the total purchase of 18 cars.

CTA cars entered Norristown service December, 1986 keeping their CTA numbers. The Norristown line has a standard width at the floor of 10 ft. so an 8 in. threshold was welded onto the outside at each doorway. A conductor's position was created in each car next to the rear doorway by removing a full seat opposite the motorman's cab from the bank of six middle seats. A farebox and a plug-in for the hand held buzzer completed the set-up. The conductor stood inside the front car and operated from here. The door controls were moved to the motorman's cab. The motorman opened and closed the doors upon signalling from the conductor by the buzzer. A cord was hung from front to rear and passengers pulled the cord for a stop just like on a bus! At terminals, all four doors opened. Also at terminals, the crews switched positions. The conductor became the motorman on the trip back and the motorman became the conductor. The Norristown route was like the Evanston, but two tracked and with about twenty station stops. A big long bridge across a big river at the Norristown end was single-tracked. That bridge is forcing a line curtailment in 2013. The line is third rail powered, the trolley rail being covered, so paddle shoes were added to the CTA cars. The line suffers from a lot of leaves and moisture on the rails so the new cars that replaced the PCCs have a complicated computer controlled "slip-slide" operation.

Of the 18 cars sent to PA, four were scrapped. 14 are still in PA. Four are in good shape....Middletown & Hummelstown #476/7, SEPTA #482/483 (stored in yard at Philly). The rest are in a forest owned by Vintage Electric Streetcar 478-81, 484-9, at Windber, PA. These cars are in bad, bad shape
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Photos: Screenshots from my video, MSIBNSF.

David Harrison

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