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Re: The Subways Melted Down Real Good (Again) This Morning

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 17 07:27:41 2018, in response to Re: The Subways Melted Down Real Good (Again) This Morning, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Apr 16 20:32:15 2018.

I'll also add a thought exercise. Have you ever had to deal with a loved one who was ill and could not recognize what was in his or her own interest? If so, you'll remember that sometimes steps had to be taken against their will.

Homeless does not imply mentally ill.

Mentally ill does not imply incompetent— and that's something a lot of people need to do a better job of remembering.

Your analogy is irrelevant.

Yes, a person has a right to care and shelter. Nothing I said contradicts that.

Your proposal that homeless people should be arrested or arbitrarily kicked out of the subway based on a cop's random decision as to their "competence" tends to suggest otherwise.

But a person with severe mental illness may refuse help precisely because he or she is ill.

Except that most homeless people don't have severe mental illness. If you ignore mental illnesses caused by homelessness itself, they're not substantially more likely to have any mental illness than the population as a whole. If homeless people refuse help, it's because the "help" is ineffective or counterproductive— being sent to a "shelter" where conditions are terrible is not preferable to just sleeping in the subway.

Mental illness is a serious health concern, not a convenient label you can use to other people you don't like.

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