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Re: $787K Study Seeks to Find Ways to Encourage Subway Riders to Ride LIRR and MNRR

Posted by lirr42 on Sun Apr 8 12:13:03 2018, in response to Re: $787K Study Seeks to Find Ways to Encourage Subway Riders to Ride LIRR and MNRR, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 8 11:38:11 2018.

The success of PoP is highly dependent on enforcement. NJT does very little fare enforcement, so people have historically taken advantage of it and just taken the risk. However, there are systems elsewhere in the world that converted to PoP and recovered more than 100% of fare revenue, since one person paying the penalty fare offsets the loss of 9 others not paying their fare. As long as they stay on top of enforcement, particularly during the initial transition period, it wouldn't mean any lost revenue. It could even mean an increase in revenue. They could even install turnstiles at most of the stations in the city (i.e. all city stations except the big terminals...NYK/NYG/ATL/HPA/LIC) to cut losses from short intra-city trips.

And, besides, when you're talking about a $250 million reduction in direct operating costs each year, a few people skipping out on a $10 ticket is not going to break the bank... Plus, it's not like conductors collect every single fare now, especially on the LIRR. I'm on trains all the time when the conductors just don't collect fares, even when conditions are not crowded. Then there's all those short intermediate riders that almost never get their tickets collected.

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