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Re: Portal … take two w/link

Posted by Bill West on Wed Mar 21 03:17:59 2018, in response to Re: Portal … take two w/link, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Mar 20 14:53:24 2018.

Jackson:
-re Robert Reich. Aren't the flaw free points in an advocate's argument more important than his name?
-re W2 wages. An advocate's argument has to look sound when looked at from other directions. Putting that into your example, he would have to explain that wages that have tax paid on them and are then brought home and passed to a late teen child or even a spouse, each without incurring a second tax, are somehow so different from passing tax paid corporate earnings on to their final user.
-how is "pay for what you actually take" any different than what we already do for the three most basic material things needed in life; food, clothing and shelter? 95% of that functions without government cross siphoning.
-re Cal Fire. I think they are more exactly the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection and are responsible for protecting state owned forest lands. So, sorry it seems normal that their costs are borne by the statewide owners. Yes they aid counties but that is just service contracts or mutual aid pacts.

Steamdriven:
-I'm not sure density is a "practical matter", who said those areas had to become ultra-dense? Wasn't the original idea of planning departments to defend the initial "contract" between the neighbors about how the property was to be used? If the earliest density agreements weren't run over there wouldn't be a transportation problem. Maybe your jests have brought us to the real issue; crowded transportation is just the consequence of a lack of enforcement of the original planning. Advocating respect of what the original neighbors bought into could stop density growth and maybe erode it down to the point where transportation would not be a problem. Goodness knows there is lots of lower density land available in the Northeast let alone in the rest of the country. We just need to quit using transportation expansion to facilitate people congesting together.

Bill

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