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Re: Feds Sue MTA Over Failure to Install Elevator at Middletown Road Station (6)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 15 09:58:38 2018, in response to Re: Feds Sue MTA Over Failure to Install Elevator at Middletown Road Station (6), posted by BusRider on Wed Mar 14 14:21:51 2018.

Are there any stations that can not have elevators installed, due to infrastructure?

From someone I know:

1) Smith and 9th has two sets of escalators with a 90 degree turn between the two sets of escalators and then stairs from the crossunder and then stairs to each platform-- 4 elevators would be needed.No room at street level without buying out the local businesses

2) 4th and 9th- two sets of right angle side platforms with specific stairs to/from each platform. TO transfer from Coney Island F to 95th Street R there is a bend in the stairway and rooms at the bend of the stairway-again four elevators with two being three stops (Both F platforms , F crossunder, street level.

3) Metropolitan on the G /Lorimer on the L. One from street to G mezzanine, one to each G platform, Canarise L to crossunder to Manhattan L, Manhattan L to crossunder--5 elevators .

4) Broadway Junction . You'd need one to each A/C platform, 1 to the upper mezzanine (J mezzanine) , one to each J platform, one from each L platform to the crossover --7 elevators

5) I am sure there are other "problem" stations but those are the ones I can think of at this time. Yes- 149/Concourse 2/3/4/5 will get full ADA and elevators

Now to do that you'd need machine rooms and upgraded power. to do Flushing on the J/M they had to cantilever both platforms outward. Ditto for the 7 at 74th Street . What many riders do not recognize is many transfers were cobbled together from the time they were three separate systems not allowing transfers to a competitor. As far as Union Square 4/5/6, MTA was granted an exemption due to a need to open the street and widen the subway tunnels to realign the platforms to allow elevators. MTA would like to extend both 4/5/6 platforms to the north which would allow closing of the curved sections. (SOURCE: Joe Cunningham on an official NYTM trip.) This was done at Brooklyn Bridge(4/5/6) and at DeKalb (Brighton) and is planned for the Shuttle to Grand Central.


Yes- many stations could easily have elevators added . The big problem is how to pay for the elevators and the structural and mechanical needs for elevators. You can only stretch money so far . What do you fix first-- tracks, signals, bridges, tunnels, cars, power, lighting, switches .




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