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Penn Station and what likely would have happened if it had not been torn down

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 13 01:46:40 2018, in response to Re: The Most Awful Transit Center in America Could Get Unimaginably Worse, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 13:29:09 2018.

And likely also prevented the Knicks and Rangers from moving to The Meadowlands, as well as prevent that area from becoming WAY worse than it was in the 1970's and '80s.

I note this because had the old Penn Station been kept and renovated along with the old MSG (49th-50th on 8th-9th Avenues), in all likelihood that version of Penn Station during the 1970's and early '80s becomes an even worse haven for drugs and crime than it became then (to the point where they likely would have been cries to tear it down with those wanting it saved looked at as scapegoats for the problems of the area even though that had more to do with a drug culture that expanded greatly during the 1960's and continued through the '70s and most of the '80s). Meanwhile, the old MSG would have been eventually deemed too old for the Knicks and Rangers and Sonny Werblin (who was largely responsible for getting The Meadowlands built and while not having the power of Robert Moses certainly had a ton of it with regards to sports back then) likely convinces the then-owners of the Knicks and Rangers to move to what would eventually be built (for the Nets in 1981) as what actually became (then) the Brendan Byrne Arena (which was most recently the IZOD Center before it closed), but with that done a few years earlier and likely opening if not with the racetrack and Giants Stadium in 1976 not too long after with by 1977 the Knicks and Rangers likely playing across the Hudson (and the Nets likely staying put at the Nassau Coliseum when they came into the NBA). A lot of people would have been blaming the Penn Station preservationists with the Knicks and Rangers moving then even if by now they likely would be playing in a newer MSG where one had been proposed to be built on the Javits site in 1986.

Penn Station would likely have gone through a very rocky road until around the mid-'90s, but if it survived today likely would have been totally renovated and become much like Grand Central is since it was renovated 20 years ago.

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