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Re: Left Behind by the Nationís Largest Subway System

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 31 08:52:20 2017, in response to Re: Left Behind by the Nationís Largest Subway System, posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 30 22:08:10 2017.

Why would you say that? The Rockaways are not part of SE Queens?

The transit deserts in SE Queens are: Queens Village; St. Albans; Cambria Heights; Laurelton; Springfield Gardens and South Jamaica. Roughly draw a north-south line along Van Wyck Exp up through Flushing Meadow Park and an east-west line along Jamaica Ave. The SE Queens transit desert lies in the lower right quadrant.

The Rockaways are well served by facilities. It's a different issue, if the service does not meet expectations. That's a management, not an ifrastructure problem.

What about trips whose start and end points are along that route?

Perhaps, I wasn't clear. The numbers I gave, included all commute to work trips where both the home and job locations were within 1/2 mile of the route. The only commutes that were excluded were those whose whose distance were less than 1 mile.

This included commutes between Rockaway Park and Woodside on the Q53 and all points in between that were longer than 1 mile. Ditto for the Q52 but between Arverne and Queens Center.

Sorry, the numbers just aren't there, despite the hyperbole.

I'm mistaken, trains are going out to Jamaica yard to turn around, which is quite far away.

As Mr. Randyo pointed out, there are ample relay tracks and multiple crossovers to turn locals at Forest Hills. Here's a link to the track layout. The problem isn't physical. Work rules prevent turning more trains, without incurring an exorbitant expense.


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