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Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone

Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Dec 23 00:46:35 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 23 00:18:39 2017.

Agreed. For dense metro areas transit is essential, and subsidizing it with gas tax _in those areas_ makes sense. To keep auto use as a viable (and bearable) option we need better transport in dense metro areas, but the you run into the problems of shared public facilities, e.g. the NYC subway being a linear urinal, done with the blessing of its fine City Council and Mayor.
The line which just had the crash seems to have rather modest traffic. You could run buses for roughly forever for the cost of building it, never mind the operating losses. Passenger trains are needed in a few places in the USA and are an expensive luxury in others.

Anyway I was responding to ET's post claiming that highways are more subsidized than rail. I don't have all the figures, but it seems that after the massive one time cost to build a highway the direct operating costs are funded by gas tax, while passenger rail outside the NEC is forever money sink. Count ALL costs (noise, land use, etc etc) and it gets complicated.

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