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Re: Question about the proposed Brooklyn F train express.

Posted by Michael549 on Sat Aug 19 13:37:51 2017, in response to Question about the proposed Brooklyn F train express., posted by Chicago44 on Sat Aug 19 08:16:25 2017.

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Here's the part that I do not understand. Generally it has been explained that up to 30 trains per hour can operate over a segment of tracks. (We are going to leave out how the #7 train managed 33 trains per hour rush hours up to the 1970's.)

For years during the rush hours both E-trains and F-trains have operated at 15 trains per hour, resulting in a wait time between express trains of every 2 minutes. The level of Queens Blvd ridership requires such a level of service, it has been that way for decades.

Which means for the Brooklyn segment 15 trains per hour from Kings Highway to/from 179th Street, Queens. That comes to an F local train every 4 minutes in Brooklyn - an extremely desirable level of service - that few places have.

The G-train simply does NOT operate at a service level of 4-minutes between trains! The current schedule indicates that one could wait 6-8 minutes between G-trains, with up to 10 minutes between trains the usual practice. At 6 minutes between G trains that comes to 10 trains per hour, and at 10 minutes per train coming up to 6 trains per hour.

Unless my math is wrong, with 15 F-trains per hour, and 10-G-trains per hour - that leaves 5 additional G-trains that could be added to those same tracks. I doubt very much at the MTA is going increase G-train service more than 15 trains per hour!

In the days when the G-train operated to 71st Avenue/Forest Hills 24/7/365 as the Queens Blvd local service, it did not operate at more than 15 trains per hour.

Yes, every one wants the MTA to "do something" because the Manhattan segment of the L-train will be closing for 15-months. It seems that there are plenty of proposals for all kinds of stuff - that will not REALLY HELP the riders of the L-train that use the remaining portion in Brooklyn, or those riders in Manhattan who need to travel across 14th Street - enhancing the connections between those two groups.

Mike





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