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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 12 23:32:14 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 12 23:08:47 2017.

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On this, I'm inclined to agree with you.NO, its not a "crime" to travel to travel to 125 on a train that you are not supposed to be on based on the public timetables and per se, its not an arrestible offense.

Exactly.

BUT it is a crime to refuse to pay the fare requested for passage by the conductor and if applicable, the appropriate penalty, based on the rules he/she has to follow and that he/she could be subject to discipline.

Not necessarily. The conductor is expected to collect the fare appropriate to your trip; nothing more. If the conductor demands in excess of the appropriate fare, you have every right to refuse to pay the excess, and you cannot be arrested for that.

If that fare request is justified, it must be paid, straight answer. If you feel that the fare is unjustified, you still must pay the fare requested & take your beef to commuter relations for a ruling.

So if the conductor demands $10 million, you're obliged to pay $10 million and then go to commuter relations to ask for it back?

Thats where the arrest issue comes in. Not for riding or detraining, but for refusing to pay for passage requested by the conductor. It seems to be a splitting hairs deal, but the bottom line is this, you can get on and off a train without getting arrested, providing you pay what you are supposed to.

Exactly. The trouble is that some people in this thread fail to understand that "paying what you're supposed to" means paying the fare for your trip. If you're going to 125th, you pay the fare to 125th. If the conductor demands a ticket to Mount Vernon, you can simply tell the conductor that you're not going to Mount Vernon.

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