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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Aug 8 10:16:07 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by B1bus on Tue Aug 8 03:01:10 2017. Is someone going to physically stop someone from exiting? Wouldn't that be kidnapping?In this section of the thread, the question seems to be more whether or not a law has been broken, not so much if the person should be physically stopped. One may argue (though I'm still not sure myself) that the person is moving around MTA property (from a vehicle to a station), and that both the vehicle and the station exist for purposes of the transportation service. So the person is not using the transportation service in accord with its intended purpose (as convoluted as that intended purpose might be) and therefore is breaking the law (though not committing theft unless actually trying to evade the fare). The person going from train to station is not "exiting" as much as changing the type of MTA property he is on. Really, until the person is completely off MTA property, one cannot say that he has exited. Thus, there are legal exit-barriers (turnstiles, requirements to "tap-out," etc.) The tap-out requirement takes care of itself because if you fail to do it you just get charged automatically. . .assuming your card had the max fare on it already to be deducted. The turnstiles seem like "kidnapping devices" but really they are just preventing you from moving from one portion of transit property to another, even if that other side is really close to the exit you want. A similar case are limited-stop buses or even any bus at all where a passenger demands to exit immediately even when not at a bus stop. Is the bus operator holding the passenger hostage in this case? Usually limited-stop drivers hold their ground and drive to the next limited-stop but I wonder, in sympathy with them, if they in their heads are wondering if they can be charged somehow for "holding" the passenger in this way. Of course, all of this goes out the window when it comes to planes. Of course a pilot does not need to let anyone off except at an airport but there are a whole set of safety standards involved here that do not apply to buses, or trains at stations. |
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