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Re: G Train Loop

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jun 28 10:38:26 2017, in response to Re: G Train Loop, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jun 28 08:41:52 2017.

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How would your automation have evacuated the derailed target and those stuck behind it?

From press reports about yesterday's derailment:

"We were just sitting there and no one tried to tell us over the intercom. We had no idea what was going on. Finally after 10 minutes the conductor gets on and she's like, 'We have a derailment, we're coming through the cars,'" Courougen said.

Some riders pried open the doors and escaped into the tunnel, said Lhota, who added that riders should never do that.

"We were sitting there for so long with no information, and as time went by there was more smoke in the car," Courougen said. "The not knowing was terrifying. As we were leaving there was an older gentleman who had a cane and he was waiting for medical personnel, and said, 'I think I need to go to the hospital.'"


It does not appear that the presence of two redundant employees materially helped the situation in the immediate aftermath of the derailment.

Another report:

The impact of the derailment rippled through the line, stalling another 800 riders on nearby trains between the 110th Street (Cathedral Parkway) and 135th Street stations. Of those riders, about 500 decided to leave their trains and enter the tracks in what FDNY Commissioner Daniel Nigro described as a "self-evacuation."

Passengers were evacuated from the derailed train, as well as three other trains, including one C and one D, that were also in the tunnel at the time, the MTA said.

The fire and police departments conducted a joint operation – involving 300 responders – in order to round up the passengers and bring them above ground, Nigro said.

"Thankfully we have the resources" to evacuate and treat people, Nigro added. At least 39 people suffered minor injuries, with 17 taken to area hospitals, the FDNY said.


The evacuation was conducted by NYPD and FDNY - not the MTA. It would appear that the MTA's role was to keep the passengers calm until professional help arrived. This makes sense, if the evacuation required 300 personnel and there were only 2 on the train. Those 2 personnal did not do a good job of keeping passengers calm, in this instance.

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