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Re: G Train Loop

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 24 10:04:50 2017, in response to Re: G Train Loop, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jun 22 22:16:34 2017.

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The subway system does a bad job of getting commuters from Grand Central and Penn Station to the Financial District and Downtown Brooklyn. This deficiency is limiting the growth of both these areas.

???

Consider the AM rush hour:

- A, C, E, 2, and 3 trains southbound from Penn are far from full.

- 4 and 5 trains southbound from GCT are quite full, but not as full as they were between 86th and 59th.

- Southbound B, D, F, N, Q, R, and W trains, which are of value for some of the trips you describe though slightly less convenient, are quite empty.

I really don't see the need for a Queens Plaza to Hoyt-Schermerhorn train.

The 14th St Line's capacity is limited by the 8th Ave terminal.

It is limited at about 24 tph, which is less than they actually run. The peak hour has 20 trains. But yes, I could see short turning trains at 6 Ave (need to add switches to do that) if traffic increases even more. They could do that by having the eastbound T/O get on as the train pulls in to 6 Ave. That way there would be no need to clear the train 100% effectively because neither T/O would need to walk the length of the train while it was in the pocket track.

The same could be done at Myrtle, so that there could be a very handy Myrtle-6 Ave supplementary service. I'm actually surprised that they don't do that now, just to save money: 10 tph from Canarsie to 8 Ave and 10 tph from Myrtle to 8 Ave. (Maybe when the L is closed in Manhattan they'll put in the added switches.)


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