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Re: The Crisis at Penn Station

Posted by Joe V on Fri May 19 17:58:21 2017, in response to Re: The Crisis at Penn Station, posted by Union Tpke on Fri May 19 17:10:58 2017.

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What I said: it works on paper, not in reality

- NJT is a shitty outfit where a 15 minute "delay" is a rounding error.

- LIRR operations are too delicate to impact with more constraints.

- Delays on one system immediately get mirrored onto the other.

- Most Penn Station platforms are too narrow to handle huge exchanges of many passengers quickly. Amtrak's 8 car Regional trains turn over 75% of their passengers, but their trains are not high capacity by commuter standards.

- Power systems are incompatible, LIRR is not about to buy dual voltage M-8's, have a unique MU fleet that can't run to Grand Central, nor deal with MU cars with heavy 25 cycle transformers.

- What are yo going to do with all the ALP46's and M-7's ?

- It is easier to change trains than thru run the train for probable2% of the people running through to Long Island fro New Jersey and vice versa.

- SEPTA does it, but can't make 90% OTP, has uniform equipment for use on both sides of the system, and exchanges passengers across 3 stations in Philly. Even so, 97% of their passengers don't ride through, and the 3% that do are mostly headed to/from the Pennsy side: Airport, Trenton, and University City.

- Europe and the UK have plenty of traditional stub end terminal systems. Don't kid yourself that everything is RER, Thameslink, and Crossrail.


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