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Re: SAS Use This Week

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 5 06:35:42 2017, in response to Re: SAS Use This Week, posted by VictorM on Sun Mar 5 01:55:08 2017.

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Has there been an increase in riders entering the Lex/63St station? If so, I think most of those extra riders could be added to the Q total.

You're really trying hard to capture every last imaginary SAS user! :=)

If more people are entering at 63rd St as a result of the SAS, they can be categorized by destination. If it's uptown, their use of the 3 new stops is already captured on their return trip.

If it's downtown and because of the SAS service, they are finding the new downtown BMT service at 63rd St attractive. However, getting direct downtown BMT service at 63rd St did not require building the SAS. Such service could have been provided by swapping N and R terminals in Queens. The N could have run as a Broadway express/Queens Blv local and the R would be a Broadway local to Astoria.

It did not take the expenditure of $4 billion to provide such service. Therefore, I would disagree with your suggestion that any 63rd St usage should be attributed to the SAS.

There are definite operational advantages (and one big disadvantage) to such routing. The advantages are elimination of merging delays. The 60th St tunnel is maxed out at 30 tph (according to NYCT), while the nearby 63rd St tunnel runs a leisurely 15 tph. Such a move would permit increased service on both Astoria and Queens Blv locals.

The operational disadvantage is there would be no yard facilities near the R terminals in Astoria or Bay Ridge.

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