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Re: N to 96/2

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 27 23:31:37 2017, in response to Re: N to 96/2, posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 27 19:10:06 2017.

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In the IND scheme of naming routes - single letters were for train routes that were express somewhere along the route, while double letters were for all local routes. Often but not always the express route was intended to travel further than the local route of the same "line."

Prior to the mid/late 1970's there was the A, and the AA train routes, and in the 1930's the C and the CC. These sets of route illustrate the concept.

The A train route was basically as we know it today, a route that is express in Manhattan along Eighth Avenue from 169th Street to Chambers Street and over time both local and express in Brooklyn. The AA local train route was all local in Manhattan except for rush hours where it was replaced by the B-train. Thus the AA local route both started and ended somewhere along the A-route.

Prior to the opening of the Sixth Avenue line in the 1940's there were the C and CC train routes that ran along both the Concourse route in the Bronx and along Eighth Avenue in Manhattan. The C-train was the EXPRESS route traveling to/from the Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street station in Brooklyn, while the CC all local route traveled from Bedford Park Blvd to Hudson Terminal - today's WTC station. Again the CC local route both started and end somewhere along the C-route, with the express route traveling a further distance.

When the Sixth Avenue line opened only the local tracks existed - so there was a rush-hours only BB service. When the express tracks and the connection over the Manhattan were built - the B-train came into existence.

While there were A, AA, B, BB, C, CC, D, E, F, GG, and HH routes over the course of events - the DD, the FF, G and H were possibly on the roll signs.

Things get interesting with the expansion and consolidation of the subways. Any decent transit fan could note that there was the E-train and prior to the mid-1970's the EE train. The EE train however did not travel along Queens Blvd and Eighth AVenue as a local companion to the E express train, but rather traveled along Queens Blvd and the BMT Broadway line in Manhattan to Whitehall Street during the weekdays from 6am to 8pm.

The GG of course was an all local route between Brooklyn and Queens, where was not an express counterpart along Queens Blvd or the Smith Street segment in Brooklyn. Using the current G name for the G-train route implies that it should be an express route but now it is largely over a local-only set of tracks, AND even the Smith Street segment requires the trains labeled G to run along the local tracks to reach their destination.

Under the IND scheme of naming things, the current C train route should really be named the AA! Why - It starts at 168th Street-Washington Heights and ends at Euclid Avenue in Brooklyn. Like the previous pattern of the AA local route, the C local both starts and ends somewhere along the A-route - so that is why it could really be called the AA. The basic reason that it does not is due to a history of route pattern changes over the years.

Mike



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