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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 18 16:36:52 2005, in response to Re: NYC T Line, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Sep 18 12:32:27 2005. Towards the end of the AM rush, the West End or "T" trains laid up on the middle track north of QBPl. At the time there was no signal control on the middle track between Ast and QBP so the Brighton Locals which ran to Ast pre Chrystie as either "QT"s or "QB's laid up and were put in from Astoria and the West End trains were laid up and put in at QBPl. The last 3 West End expresses each night Mon - Sat ran via the tunnel Stl to Canal St, discharged passengers and laid up to City Hall Yd (lower level). On Mon - Fri AMs these 3 trains operated local from Canal St to Ast carrying "TT" signs and operated S/B from Ast as "T" expresses. On Sat AMs, these 3 trains operated S/B from City Hall to Stl via tunnel as "TT"s where the entered "T" West End Express service to 57 St. On Sat PM, these same 3 trains again laid up at Canal St and were then in position to start the regular daily service pattern Mon AM. A slight correction on an earlier poster's info, the BMT numbers were as follows: 1 - Brighton, 2 - 4 Av, 3 - West End, 4 - Sea Beach, 5 - Culver, 6 - 5 Av/Bay Ridge, 7 - Franklin, 8 - Astoria Shuttle, 9 - Flushing Shuttle, 10 - Myrtle/Chambers, 11 - Myrtle Elevated, 12 - Lexington Av, 13 - Fulton, 14 - Bway Bkln, 15, Jamaica, 16 - 14 St. There have been some reports that the 14 St/Fulton St service was assigned a #17 but it seems no one has ever seen that number used and the 14/Fulton service normally carried the #13 that the mainline Fulton service used. Only one train on the mainline Fulton El used a number on the route sign and that was the Green Hornet and although the D types and Multis had and used numbered roll signs, the BMT routes were publicly identified only by their line names until the R-32s with their lettered signs arrived at which time the TA tried to get the public to use the letter system. Although the R-27s and 30s also had lettered roll signs, the TA did not attempt to use letters as the principal means of train ID until the R-32s. Of course, the wooden elevated cars didn't use numbers either. It's also interesting to note that although the Bluebirds arrived after the Multis, they had no provision anywhere for a route number sign. It could be that since the public didn't use route numbers, the BMT decided against retaining them for future use. |
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