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Re: Developer Has Chance To Link Two Key Long Island City Subway Stations

Posted by Michael549 on Mon Oct 24 12:35:39 2016, in response to Re: Developer Has Chance To Link Two Key Long Island City Subway Stations, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Oct 24 10:41:08 2016.

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From a previous message:

"So both sides of the F line (Brooklyn and Queens) have stations that could be bypassed by express service, but at which people in the area would prefer all service to remain local."

In both cases an argument could be made that the substituted local service would not be as frequent as the current local/express hybird service provides, and the local/express hybrid service has often existed for decades.

In Brooklyn, the usual calls for the F-train to run express often means that the G-train would have to handle the by-passed heavily used local stations. The currently configured G-train simply does not run as much service as the F-train. Some plans involve a combination of SOME F-trains and G-trains which would still represent a reduction in the frequency of trains that service those by-passed heavily used local stations. On this forum and others - we have had this discussion before plenty of times. In any case, the riders seem to prefer F-trains arriving at 4 minutes apart with 15 trains per hour - over a reduction in service. See the riders are crazy for wanting quicker direct trips to Manhattan!

In Queens - the proposed call is for both E and F trains to run as much as a full express as possible while M and R trains handle the by-passed local stations. Combined the M and R trains may or may not indeed provide the 15 trains per hour that the F-train does at those proposed to be by-passed local trains - but few riders would WANT to stay on-board such trains for the complete ride to/from Manhattan daily. Prior to the F-train regularly stopping at these local stations, the E-train did in the decades before the Archer Avenue segment opened. Meaning the residents were used to a direct to Manhattan express route. The experiment where R-trains were extended to 179th Street rush hours did not seem to go well. I suppose one of the complaints was that those R-trains were not as frequent as the F-train service. In any case, I'm told that riders would if possible abandon the local service as soon as possible to transfer to the express trains for the ride to Manhattan. See the riders are crazy for wanting quicker direct trips to Manhattan!

Man!! Subway riders are CRAZY!!! (Smile)

Mike


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