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Re: Biden: $2.45B loan for Amtrak upgrades in Northeast Corridor

Posted by nasadowsk on Sun Aug 28 20:36:10 2016, in response to Re: Biden: $2.45B loan for Amtrak upgrades in Northeast Corridor, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 28 19:37:18 2016.

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The MTA M-1 was 48 tons. Wouldn't be legal today. It took 8 more tons of FRA bullshit to make it into the M-3. The M-7 is a total pig at 67 tons. (The 65' MP54 was 65 tons).

Nobody's ever been able to list:

1) What specifically about the M-1 carbody wasn't legal anymore.
2) What was changed on the M-3 carbody.
3) What the weight breakdown of the various components on the three was.

On the last point - the Pioneer III MUs and the Silverliner IIs had the exact same car body (this is per Budd's own documentation), but a 11,000 lb weight difference overall.

AFAIK, the M-3 had most of its weight gain in the trucks and traction motors and the blowers and ductwork associated with the uprated TMs.

The weight:seat of the M-7 makes their weight gain even more obscene - they hold fewer passengers than the M-1s and 3s.

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