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Re: (M) train during (L) tunnel closure

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed May 4 11:48:09 2016, in response to Re: (M) train during (L) tunnel closure, posted by Michael549 on Tue May 3 12:53:09 2016.

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Actually, the J/Z idea is something that likely will be needed as well as 6th avenue can only take so many trains (main reason why in my M/T split the (T) is actually less TPH during the week than on weekends when it absorbs the (M) shuttles).

The 14th Street issue has more to do with gridlock. As noted, the real concern is those vehicles coming from New Jersey that many there can't or won't give up. Even if that traffic doesn't come near 14th Street itself, the additional bus traffic on 14th coupled with other traffic in the area can cause gridlock that has ripple effects that the vehicles from New Jersey add to unless a draconian measure that makes it so there is a large area that non-essential vehicles are banned from 14th and nearby streets, something I suspect New Jersey officials (especially with by then a new Governor there) likely won't accept. That to me is partially why the Manhattan Borough President wants the 14th Street portion kept open, knowing gridlock could be a problem.

As also said, in a perfect world you could have 13-15 (M) trains go to 71-Continental, but the already-existing conga line problem will likely be worse and you may have to anyway have the (G), (M) and (R) all go to 179 at all times so the (G) can also stop at Queens Plaza and divide up those looking for Court Square between there and QP (especially since those looking for the (R) can switch there). And then there is the CBTC work issue, which is why I came up with the split in the first place.

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