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Re: Question for Joe F. -Woodlawn - PG shuttle 3rd rail shoe

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue May 3 16:19:07 2016, in response to Re: Question for Joe F. -Woodlawn - PG shuttle 3rd rail shoe, posted by GojiMet86 on Tue May 3 11:18:56 2016.

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Hello GOJIMET86

Yes, I well remember back then the "loosely proposed" plan by those various individuals who wanted to SAVE the shuttle line -- to connect it to the IRT Lenox Line at the area where the IRT Lenox repair shops were along the river.

However, the main problem, besides the cost of cutting out about 6 inches of tunnel walls ( 2 tunnels, 4 walls) from surface level to about 4 feet high (the height needed for 3rd rail future maintenance and repair work access-clearances) to make them wider for subway 3rd rail -- was the ancient Putnam RR bridge - which dated from about 1879. It was (IIRC) 'leased" to the IRT from the Putnam (branch of NYCRR) and was in dire need of overhaul by 1958. It was a steam operated bridge if I recall...one of, if not THE last surviving Harlem River ones. Perhaps needing eventual total replacement in a few years. Additionally, the added costs of having 3 daily shifts of BRIDGE TENDER operator employees to open and close the bridge the occasional times when needed.

AND - lastly, the fast aging 1878 built ancient all lattice girder constructed EL Structure at W. 155th Street was another consideration - already 80 years old in 1958 and minimally maintained thru the previous many decades.

For the little projected passenger gain -- and the new construction costs for the connective new structure from Lenox Avenue to the W. 155th Street Shuttle EL Station, and W. 162nd Street tunnel wall modifications...the plan was quickly discarded.

regards - Joe F

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