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Re: VIDEO: SPECIAL - Scenes from the Abandoned Upper Level of Myrtle Avenue Station

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sun May 1 20:17:47 2016, in response to Re: VIDEO: SPECIAL - Scenes from the Abandoned Upper Level of Myrtle Avenue Station, posted by randyo on Sun May 1 18:19:15 2016.

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-- Anyone HERE in transit (we all know YOU were a long time employee) reading what you just stated likely would not agree with that at all --- per the IMPRACTICAL time and labor needed and taken to perform all that manual work for changeover of shoes (4 shoes a car) work and do those back and forth between yards and subway tunnel moves would be most time consuming and labor intensive. The IRT was extremely cheap, thrifty and cost-labor sensitive, even operating in Bankruptcy in June 1940 !

The time to run a a few separate trains of composites from, lets say, even the Harlem River Yards, shops, at E. 129th Street (still in full use in June 1940) down the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL, (or 2nd Ave.EL ) and around the South Ferry Horn, and up to West 155th street, non-revenue-non stop on express tracks under special order moves....would be around 1 hour or less each train -- as the general running time speed from Harlem River to South Ferry non stop would be about 1/2 hour or less...and same from there to W. 155th Street.

Also, as you SHOULD know -- during that June 1940 transfer move, Composites were variously shopped, maintained, at the E.99th Street, E.129th Street, and E.179th Street Yards and Shops -- all being immediately along the 3rd Ave EL Line. Only MAJOR HEAVY OVERHAUL was done at E.239th St Shops and Yards, and then mainly for the steel subway fleet. East 99th Street also carried out heavy overhaul and major repairs.

History: -- The E.129th St Yards were diminished in use by 1941, and abandoned and removed 1942. The E. 99th Street yards and shops, along with the E. 179th St Yard and shops, were closed variously between late 1949 and early 1950. By early 1950 the Composites were out of service, and ALL remaining 3rd Ave EL fleet CARS WERE shopped and repaired and maintained mostly at E. 239th St Yards.

Sorry, but I must disagree with you...AND - the IRT did chose the transfer route and method as being practical, as I related. Even tho your route and plan would have been possible and likely necessary HAD the South Ferry single "east to west" connection track been not existing at the time. As it was, that track was removed and catwalk-planked-over sometime in late 1940, as not needed, which the removal of the 9th (and 6th) Ave. El connection at South Ferry

regards - Joe F

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