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Re: South Ferry Inner Loop Station.

Posted by Jace on Tue Feb 16 21:56:49 2016, in response to Re: South Ferry Inner Loop Station., posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Feb 15 18:02:19 2016.

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I don't think IRT expresses of the 1940s and the L of today are a good comparison. An express will run much longer distances between stations giving the passengers on board time to circulate into less crowded cars especially on the Bronx and Brooklyn ends. They would also have more time in Manhattan to get near the exits. Plus you have the local on the main trunk as a major fall back option. You don't have that option on the L; you either cram yourself on or you wait. This crowding, the station layouts and the short durations between key stations leads to the clogging by the doors. Someone going to First or Third Avenue (or even Union Square) will want to be close to the doors to make sure they can get out. They'll block up the doors located closest to the busiest ends of Lorimer and Bedford. Locking out doors at this particular location of the train again is a terrible idea as you'll have even worse crowding and clogging at these doors. I have no doubt dwell times will go up. I'll gladly lend you my keys so you can go experiment by locking out doors on the L if you don't believe me.

As for the R110Bs, they would have been a poor option since you'd lose four door openings versus a 9 car train of slightly less than 60's. And it would be difficult to go to five doors per car on the 67's too (with the associated bench seating) due to wheel load limitations - that's the real reason for four door openings and transverse seating on the longer cars.

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