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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 7 12:32:03 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 7 10:13:23 2016. Some time ago a few months back on this forum I presented a lengthy proposal to revamp the train routes once the Second Avenue subway opened. In that proposal I suggested the following:a) The R-train remain as is, usually 6am to midnight, with its usual Brooklyn shuttle segment. b) The W-train be re-created to service Astoria, traveling local between Whitehall Street and Astoria (24/7/365). I'd have rush-hour additional traveling between Astoria and the Canal Street, and rush hours between Astoria and the 9th Avenue station in Brooklyn. These two additional pathways rush hours were to give the Astoria segment the needed number of trains per hour that is obtained from the current N & Q train service. c) The Q-train would run as planned from 96th Street/Second Avenue to/from Coney Island as the Manhattan-Broadway express and the Brighton local. d) The N-train would run from 96th Street/Second Avenue to/from Coney Island as the Manhattan-Broadway and the Brooklyn 4th Avenue express along the Sea Beach line. The N-train would run 6am to midnight, where during the midnight hours the W-train would be extended to Coney Island via the Sea Beach line as the all local stop service for Queens, Manhattan and Fourth Avenue. ---------- I had proposed this arrangement to reduce the switching of trains on the Broadway line, to speed up service on the respective branchs - where the 60th Street Tunnel handles the local trains, and the 63rd Street Tunnel handles the express trains. In addition the idea was to provide the Second Avenue segment with the frequency of service that rivals the Lexington Avenue line which was one of the purposes of building the Second Avenue subway. I believed that the Q-train alone could not provide that frequency of service, and there would not make the Second Avenue segment competitive with the Lexington Avenue line - basically wasting billions of dollars. Having both the Q and N train routes service Second Avenue would accomplish several goals. There were several rounds of back and forth discussion of the idea, with many aspects discussed and detailed. Some folks brought out time schedules, while others talked about train yard access or how riders would transfer, etc. It was a lively discussion. In addition some folks created variations on the idea or expressed the ideas in their own ways. (Yeah!) In any case, the idea that Broadway Lion is promoting by definition (and from birth) includes the idea that the train service along the Astoria segment would get its current frequent needed rush hour levels of service. Mike |
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