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Re: Should the MTA get the ACS-64?

Posted by WillD on Fri Nov 27 21:00:48 2015, in response to Re: Should the MTA get the ACS-64?, posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 27 13:48:21 2015.

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There is no chance LIRR would terminate such service

They tried to terminate the Greenport service no more than 3 or 4 years ago during a budget crunch.

just because they do decide they don't want a diesel fleet.

They're not going to decide that they don't want a diesel fleet, but they're going to decide they don't want to pay the costs of the diesel fleet amortized over a shrinking number of passengers, hours, and miles as they whittle away at it with 3rd rail extensions. At a certain point they'll find themselves in another budget crunch, they'll have electrified to Riverhead, Port Jefferson, and perhaps Speonk or Patchogue, and the remaining diesel operations will sit high on the list of potential abandonments.

it has simply been exactly the same for 16 years, and no one with influence has challenged them to do anything about it.

And before 16 years ago? You lamented the reduction in diesel rolling stock which occurred when the current fleet was introduced. What will happen with the next fleet? Chances are the LIRR will finally complete an electrification extension and reduce the diesel mileage. So we'll see an even smaller diesel fleet with the next order. But there will likely be little in the way of savings as diesel operations decline because much of their cost is wrapped up in fixed expenditures maintaining the Richmond Hill shops.

So the LIRR is going to be faced with a diesel fleet which, if they manage to extend their 3rd rail electrification, will become more and more expensive in terms of unlinked passenger trips, revenue miles, and revenue hours. At a certain point the beancounters won't sit still and continue to allow the operation to hemorrhage money.

Or they can invest capital now with an electrification approach that allows them to electrify the entire network without a ridiculous cost and would safeguard the entire network.

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