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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Jul 7 12:54:59 2015, in response to Re: Ways to improve C & R trains, posted by caine515 on Tue Jul 7 12:01:21 2015. Basically a long time trend of fewer riders bound for Nassau Street from Brooklyn.The rush hours RR seemed to have started in the mid-late 1960's as a way to send needed trains along the J-train route, AND as a way to continue the Nassau Street loop of trains in some fashion after the Chrystie Street improvements. In any case, R-trains that continued up the current J-train route were called RJ train in the days of the QJ, QJ, QT, and TT era of train routes. The RJ route was a rush hours only operation, with QJ and later blue M trains handling local travel along the Brighton line. The RJ moniker was dropped and replaced by the RR route name. In any case, we jump past the 1970's fiscal crisis, the re-coloring of the green RR-train to the yellow R-train, the re-coloring of the blue M-train to brown, the creation of the brown R-train. The brown R-train out of the Chamber Street station gets eliminated, leaving just the M-train traveling from southern Brooklyn along the Nassau Street line. The M-train route in southern Brooklyn has served the Brighton line (blue), the West End line (brown), and as both a local and express on the Fourth Avenue line at various times. Basically in one sentence we've jumped past the 1980's, the 1990's to the 2000's. The brown rush-hours only M-train that traveled local along the West End route was determined to have very few riders. In 2010 the route of the M-train was changed and combined with the major portion of the V-train, creating the current M-train route. The current M-train route along Broadway Brooklyn, Sixth and the IND Queens Blvd pathway has been credited with increasing ridership and approval by many of the riders. Since 2010 there has been no regular direct service from the southern Brooklyn BMT-type routes along the Nassau Street line. There have been a few G.O. J-trains that plied the route due to outages of #4 train service on certain weekends. There are arguments about the ridership of "downtown Manhattan" versus "midtown Manhattan" and the changes within the central business districts of Manhattan that have occurred in NYC. The creation/conversion of the Fulton Transit Center, the expansion of transfer possibilities including the sustained usage of unlimited Metro-Cards, etc. At one time the DeKalb Avenue complex sent two train routes to lower Manhattan, two routes to Sixth Avenue, and two routes to the Broadway line. Now one consistent route is sent to Lower Manhattan. On paper a revival of the "brown R-train" may seen appropriate - in the real world, a very strong case would be needed. The conversion and creation of the current M-train route provided several "plus points" that its increase in ridership confirmed the debate. A revival of the Brown R-train would have to look at the origins and destinations of the riders, the numbers of riders, the current difficulties of the journey, etc. It would be a tough sale to revive a long-gone train route, but it is possible. A really good case would have to be made. Mike |
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