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Re: POP works in Germany: Fines rise from €40 to €60 in select cities, enforcement increases

Posted by WillD on Tue Jun 30 18:27:00 2015, in response to Re: POP doesn't work in Germany: Fines rise from €40 to €60 in select cities, enforcement increases, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 18:02:13 2015.

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You may not realize it, but you answered your own question.

It may answer that question if you're an ignorant royalist out of touch with reality. But for everyone else it doesn't, just as your conclusion does not follow from the article. Nowhere in the article does it say anything about POP not working, and fdtutf was kind enough to point out just how low Germany's fines for non-payment are. You're the one making the claim POP does not work, without any evidence to support your claim.

But then again, you're a statist, so increasing the punishment means increasing the good for the State,

So it's your claim that no enforcement is necessary to get passengers to pay with either a barrier or conductor collected fare arrangement? Everyone is so thrilled to hand their money over that there's never anyone arrested or fined on an NJT train or at a NYCT fare gate, right? You're the biggest statist on this board, yet somehow you make the completely counterfactual claim that POP results in any more "statist" a society than any other fare collection method.

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