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Re: Madison Square Garden

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 17 04:14:03 2015, in response to Re: Madison Square Garden, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 16 02:35:01 2015.

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Mike:

What I have been talking about and has been suggested elsewhere for a new MSG is a stretch of land from 28th-30th streets and 9th-10th Avenues that currently is I believe used by the Post Office for the most part that they are expected to vacate in the next decade. This would be not too far from the original MSG, and while not quite as transit-friendly a location as the current MSG, it is one that is within reasonable walking distance of quite a few options along with one that can be built if a new MSG is:

The new option would be extending the (7) one stop to a new terminal that would officially be 28th Street, but would run from 28th-30th streets with exits at 28th, 29th and 30th Streets, designed that way to handle crowds to and from MSG with two side platforms instead of an island one in an area that is supposed to be tail tracks.

Otherwise, you would have by the time a new MSG opened in all likelihood Moynahan Station also open, and that could include an entrance on 9th Avenue and 31st Street and even an underground passageway between a new MSG that would have its northeast entrance on 30th Street and 9th Avenue and Moynahan Station, which would keep being able to not deal with the elements coming from Penn Station in tact with a new MSG. Even if neither was done on 31st and 9th, you'd still be talking about a MAXIMUM three-block walk between that entrance and the southwest entrance of Penn Station at the current MSG on 31st Street and 8th Avenue.

From that location you also could have the 25th Street entrances to the 8th Avenue line also open on event days at a new MSG that would give people using the 23rd Street station on 8th Avenue a quarter-mile walk to the 25th street exit to the southeast entrance on 28th Street and 9th Avenue. You also would have people in some cases walking to/from the 7th Avenue and 28th Street entrance to the (1) train.

Between those, it 28th-30th and 9th-10th Avenues would not be a bad spot for a new MSG and that could allow for a rebuild of the old Penn Station to subsequently happen (though that I would do as noted as a smaller version of the old station, keeping 2 Penn Plaza and the existing 7th Avenue entrances with the grand entrance moved to 8th Avenue).

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