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Re: ''Last Stop'' display -- questions and comments

Posted by The Logic on Sat Nov 22 23:40:26 2014, in response to "Last Stop" display -- questions and comments, posted by gbs on Sat Nov 22 21:47:18 2014.

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"While biking over the Willy B this evening, I saw an in-service M train that had left Essex on its way to Brooklyn and its exterior side signs all still said "Last Stop", a remnant from its prior trip. Are those Last Stop signs displayed automatically when the train arrives at its terminal, or does the operator have to set them to that display?"

Usually (or always) automatic. Usually (or always) no setting by T/O or C/R. Someone else might be able to tell you whether there are exceptions; I feel that there should be a numerical code to punch into the keypad for "last stop" in the event that they want to throw up that sign when it does not appear automatically.

"Unless the sign system wasn't working properly, I'm guessing that the operator didn't reprogram the train before departing Essex St. Apparently just charging up the train and heading out in the opposite direction doesn't cancel them out."

Yup. AFAIK, neither train movement nor charging has any effect on signage unless the train is programmed, in which case the distance the train travels is used to display the previous station and next station on TODs, distance to the next station on TODs, station names on info displays in passenger compartment, station announcements, and whatnot.

"Now that the R188's are on the #7 line, I've noticed that when a train arrives at Main St, the "Last Stop" display remains shown all the while the train is open and accepting passengers for the next trip, often for 10 minutes or more, until the operator or conductor reprograms the train. This can be very misleading, since the platform signs may point to the train being Next but the train itself shows Last Stop, and passengers need to learn to ignore those Last Stop signs (which is unfortunate; signs should not have to be ignored)."

However, the R44s and R46s have been creating similar situations for a long time. I suppose this is just an example of the many incongruities that exist in urban mass transit systems.

"It seems to me that at in-and-out stations, like Main St or 207 St (A) or Parsons-Archer (E,J,Z) or 95 St (R), when such a train is going to be used again, the Last Stop signs should be turned off right away, so the train does not appear to be out of service. Only when the train is going to the yard and the terminal really is the last stop for passengers should the Last Stop display remain on."

Some C/Rs reprogram the train as it is arriving at the terminal so the next C/R does not have to. So when the doors are opened upon arrival at the terminal, the announcements for the identity of the train and the station immediately after the terminal are played. (I would love to know exactly how they do this, it is great when the train has to go back out ASAP. I have only seen it done on R142s.)

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