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Re: More Government Hypocrisy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Oct 29 10:38:23 2014, in response to Re: More Government Hypocrisy, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Oct 28 15:51:41 2014.

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Pushing bus stops further apart from every two blocks to every three blocks in certain instances makes sense, when the stops are moderately used. The trade off is quicker bus trips but extra walking. However, it does not make sense when there is a lot of turn over and many are already getting on and off at each stop, because, the increased dwell time counteracts the quicker travel time so that little if any time is actually saved. Limited service makes more sense in those instances than increasing bus stop spacing.

The other time it makes no sense is when the stops are all lightly used and the bus skips most of them anyway, so no time is actually saved. All that is accomplished is that passengers have to walk a block further to the bus stop. That is exactly what happened to my bus stop 11 years ago when it was eliminated. Instead of getting the bus on my corner, I now have to walk an extra block. That is not much of a problem. The problem is that walking that extra block, I now miss the bus I would have gotten about 30% of the time adding at least 10 minutes to my trip. And the MTA saves nothing since prior to elimination it only had 54 users in an entire day.(it was near the beginning of the route so no one got off there.) That meant that with about 150 bus trips per day, one out of every three buses even stopped three riders stopped there if the riders were evenly spaced throughout the 24 hour period. Most likely half of them were rush hour riders, meaning more like only one out of four or five buses stopped there and they saved about 30 seconds by not stopping, but all 54 users now had 10 minute longer bus trips a third of the time and some of them now have to walk more than one quarter mile to access the bus.

As far as European cities with quarter mile spacing, in many cases there are no subways, so the bus really acts as a subway. Here some have a choice between bus or train, so those who do not like the close spacing use the train instead, while those who prefer less walking and do not mind the slower speed use the bus. Many bus users are elderly, infirm, or have a problem walking and must use buses. To not consider them and force more bus riders to rely on access a ride instead would not be wise. You will find it is more the young and healthy riders who complain about the close bus stop spacing.

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