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Re: Making free walking transfer permanent for (G) (J) (M) (Z) riders?

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Aug 29 10:09:41 2014, in response to Re: Making free walking transfer permanent for (G) (J) (M) (Z) riders?, posted by merrick1 on Fri Aug 29 08:40:15 2014.

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I'm thinking that it goes back to the days of the Franklin Avenue shuttle transfers, and the Third Avenue bus transfers. There were "unsavory guys" on the streets selling bus/subway transfers and other criminal stuff going on! That is why there are limits on the use of MetroCards at the same station, etc. It is to cut down on a "policy-created" criminal enterprise, but they really do not WANT to say that publicly.

The MTA got itself out of that kind of business, and it does not really want to go back to such an affair. The creation of physical within the paid-zone fare transfer passageways removes the problem.

The F-train transfer at 63rd Street, I think, was a concession since the MTA did itself remove a transfer from the F-train direct to the #6 trains at 51st Street. One of the early and endearing complaints about the planning & building of the IND system was the creation of very few transfer points between the then "newer" subway and the existing older subway lines. The new 63rd Street stations re-created that complaint.

Remember in the beginning of the F-train traveling on 63rd Street, and the new V-train on 53rd Street - it was strongly suggested that F-train riders who needed to transfer at 51/53 Street simply take the V-train.

The limited G-train out of system transfer was a concession due to the tunnel outage. From one point of view - it is not about restoring something that used to be there. The counter-argument - is that it to create something that should have been. That argument is really a rebuttal to the original planners of the IND who often did not want connections to the older lines, but to eliminate the older lines.

Mike

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