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Re: Overnight (Q) train service will make local stops in Manhattan (Canal - 57 Sts); 12/2014

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Apr 23 16:52:26 2014, in response to Re: Overnight (Q) train service will make local stops in Manhattan (Canal - 57 Sts); 12/2014, posted by BrooklynTrain on Wed Apr 23 16:22:28 2014.

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From a previous message:

Why can the #3 train get late night shuttle service to a major hub like 34th St, but the R train can't get to a major hub and instead gets cut back to either 36th or 59th? Let the late night R terminate at Atlantic, Court, or Whitehall (obviously Whitehall once the tunnel opens). Well the complaints will keep coming and coming and coming until this happens. (I have no problem tying up the MTA phone line with my commuting problems with the late night service.)

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Basically it has to do with the MTA running as few services as it can during the midnight hours, and saving money. Generally whatever runs to/from Astoria for the past few decades has been the line that runs during the midnight hours. In my lifetime, that midnight hour train has been either the RR train to/from Astoria, the N train, or the W train.

Long ago whatever "BMT" service on Queens Blvd ended "early" leaving the E, F or GG trains as the midnight hour service. The GG, now G has been removed from Queens Blvd, leaving just the E and F trains, which now have separate terminals that have to be served. And yes there were experiments that did not last long with the midnight RR along Queens Blvd. The E and F trains often allow transfers to various lines even during the midnight hours, so alternate trips are not impossible.

Plenty of folk like express trains, and put less attention to all-local routes, especially a route that is described as the "Rarely". Transit fan nick-names for the N and R - Never and Rarely - really do not inspire confidence that there will be spokesman clamoring for its expansion. Notice that almost every scheme for improving weekend Queens Blvd local service put fourth by transit fans, does not include the idea of simply increasing the frequency of R-train service!

The R-train has few defenders - there were even folks on-line who wanted the Whitehall Street segment completely closed due to the Hurricane Sandy tunnel repairs! Good luck spurring community support for expanded midnight hour R-train service beyond its current Brooklyn-only midnight hour shuttle.

Mike



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