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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 17:27:19 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:01:16 2005.

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Richard, no one is denying that the line WAS IN FACT supposed to continue straight past Euclid with a four track line, and in FACT the next station after Euclid was to be called "76th Street". There is no controversy there. The controversy is whether or not they actually got to built that station there or not - not whether it was planned (we all know it WAS planned).

The part that makes it a slight possibility that it was built was that the tunnel was actually built during the depression, and before the United States got involved in WWII. The station shells for Liberty Ave, Van Siclen, Shephard, and Euclid Ave were all built (and perhaps 76th Street). Then once the United States got involved in WWII, construction stopped. By 1936, the line was only completed to Rockaway Ave, just short of Broadway Junction, however the tunneling was done all the way to "just past Euclid", ant that included the station shells for Broadway Junction to Euclid (and perhaps 76th St). Wartime restrictions made them hault putting in the finishing touches, such as rails and signalling, materials that would not become available until after the war. Finally, the line was opened to East New York-Bway Junction in 1946, and to Euclid by 1948 (twelve years after when the original tunnel was built, and then haulted).

That's where the missing link comes in. I don't want to imply 76th St does exist, however, if a forgotten station can exist, all the conditions can be seen here. Between the actually construction of the tunnel and station shells, the confusion of WWII, all the changes to the IND planned Second System, when the line was finally opened up to Euclid Ave in 1948, many years after the original construction was finished, and many years after the original plans for the Fulton line were originally made, it was a totally different climate that line opened under.

So in summary. There is NO controversy that there was a planned subway station for 76th St, the controversy is only whether it was actually built.

Look at these maps of the IND Second System lines. http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=124546 One of them (I don't recall if it's the original one or the updated one) shos how the Fulton Line was supposed to continue straight to 76th ST, and also to Grant Ave. The line was meant to go straight, but we could actually blame Hitler for it not going through, as after WWII, everything changed.

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