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Re: PHOTOS: MNR Derailment |
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Posted by Bill West on Mon Dec 2 01:37:07 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: MNR Derailment, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 23:29:12 2013. We are in agreement that ejection is a propelling force. My point was caution against building an argument from the word ejection. Maybe the reporter made an incorrect choice of word and a more accurate word explained the person being outside the car. That would then change what subsequent arguments could be made.Seat inaction alerters only cover a collapse of the engineer, not an incorrect action. Cab signal audio sounds lead to penalty brakes which react for not acknowledging a downward cab signal change or for exceeding the speed on the cab signal. Here the cab signal would have been "proceed" at whatever the prevailing MAS was. It is not a system for reading out the rule book's speed zones to the engineer, that's what his qualifying is for. I would be interested to know if the LIRR's system covers every MAS change or only some of them, say the circumstances where unlike Sputyen Duyvil there once was a history of accidents. Generally, just because you have an accident does not mean that there are devices for every condition and that they will cover every combination of those conditions. Reason forward from what IS there not back from the direness of what happened. Bill |
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