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Re: Old LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch

Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 9 17:36:38 2013, in response to Re: Old LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 9 13:57:39 2013.

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Actually, the IRT and BMT were NOT making money but were hamstrung by the city's refusal to allow the privates to raise the fare above a nickel. The gov't actually did build the dual contract portions of the IRT and BMT with the intention of having those companies operate them as part of their existing systems. At one point, the iRT took offense at the PSC allowing the BRT to operate the 4 Av subway in Bkln and backed out of the dual contract agreement. This gave rise to the construction of a lower portion of the Lex Av Subway below 42 St to connect the upper Lex to the BRT's Bway Subway. Also since the Lex, Jerome, Pelham and even the Wh Pl Rd Lines were built to the larger clearances of the BRT equipment, that would have meant that those lines with the possible exception of the Wh Pl Rd Line would go to the BRT. When the IRT realized that it would lose out on a lot of potential Bronx ridership by not having the operating rights to lines that could connect to its existing lines, it ceased complaining about not getting the 4 Av subway and settled for the E/Pky and Nostrand lines and reentered the Dual contracts thus getting back the Bronx lines that had been originally assigned to it. Many of the lines that are now part of the iND were originally intended to be built as extensions of the BRT/BMT but since mayor Hylan had a personal vendetta against the private companies especially the BRT and its successor the BMT, he insisted that the new lines be built as part of a new system operated by the city and independent of the 2 private companies hence the name "Independent Subway System" which after unification became the IND division of the NYCTS. Actually, after Hylan left office, the city decided it really didn't want to operate the new lines and since its dimensions were almost identical to the BMT's, offered them to the BMT. The BMT declined to operate the new lines unless it was allowed to raise the fare above 5 cents which the city would not allow it to do and since the new lines were substantially completed, the city found itself obligated to operate the new subway under the newly established Board of Transportation.

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